{"id":1352,"date":"2015-12-17T03:12:42","date_gmt":"2015-12-17T09:12:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/?page_id=1352"},"modified":"2023-12-14T14:44:12","modified_gmt":"2023-12-14T20:44:12","slug":"study-for-discipline","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/study\/study-for-discipline","title":{"rendered":"Study for Discipline"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>GODLY DISCIPLINE<\/strong><br \/>\nOne reason people read the Bible is to be reminded of and comforted by God&#8217;s promises. While this is well and good, there is a problem in the fact that religion teaches that any promise God has made for good or blessings will apply to them unconditionally. This problem is made worse by the fact that religion only teaches about discipline within religious organizations, within a family, self discipline and spiritual disciplines, but never about Godly discipline &#8212; except for people who do not share the beliefs and practices of the religious organization.<\/p>\n<p>It is a testimony to the depth and power of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\/religion-is-not-faith\/pride\">religious pride<\/a> that each and every hierarchical level and denominational strain within Judaism and Christianity sees itself above the need for discipline. Every religion is so convinced of the purity and correctness of its doctrines and traditions that it cannot fathom the possibility that there would ever be a need for God to discipline the religious organization or people who adhere to the organization&#8217;s doctrines and teachings. Their religious pride causes them to imagine the\u00a0 need for God to discipline other religions and unbelievers, but they are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/sickeness-disease-blindness-and-deafness\/3\">blind<\/a> to the truth that they also need Godly discipline.<\/p>\n<p>Such self-righteous attitudes are based on the teachings of men that appeal to gullible people who like to have their <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/parallel-bible\/passage\/?q=2+timothy+4:1-4&amp;t=nas&amp;t2=niv\">itching ears tickled<\/a> with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=romans+16:17-18;+colossians+2:4;+2-peter+2:1-3;+proverbs+7\">smooth talk<\/a> that never hints at the need for discipline. If any religious organization did teach about Godly discipline that might be directed to adherents of the religion, that religion would soon die for lack of followers. That is why discipline is never taught except in the most general way that exhorts people to stop sinning.<\/p>\n<p>The truth is that, from Genesis to Revelation, the Bible is full of stories of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/hebrews\/passage\/?q=hebrews+12:1-17\">Godly discipline of the children he loves<\/a> &#8212;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/isaiah\/53.html\"> including the Messiah<\/a>. We tend to interpret these stories more as history than instruction, but they are there for us to learn when and how God disciplines\/corrects his people.<\/p>\n<p>When reading Bible stories we should always observe that Godly <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=job+5:17;+proverbs+6:23;+proverbs+13:18;+proverbs+13:1;+proverbs+12:1;+proverbs+15:5;+proverbs+15:32;+proverbs+19:27;+proverbs+22:15;+ephesians+6:4\">discipline has a good outcome for those who receive it but a bad outcome for those who do not receive it<\/a>. This is fully consistent with what the Bible says about how<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+4:36;+job+5:17;+psalm+50:17;+proverbs+3:11;+proverbs+6:23;+proverbs+12:1;+proverbs+13:1;+proverbs+13:18;+proverbs+15:5;+proverbs+15:32;+proverbs+16:22;+proverbs+19:18;+proverbs+19:20;+proverbs+19:27;+proverbs+22:15;+proverbs+23:12;+ephesians+6:4;+colossians+2:5;+2-timothy+1:7;+hebrews+12:1-11;+revelation+3:19\"> God uses discipline to produce righteousness, wisdom, knowledge and understanding in his people. <\/a><\/p>\n<p>What we should learn from these scriptures about discipline is that we should desire and seek discipline when we read the Bible. We should always expect to find application of Bible stories and teachings to our own lives. When reading with these expectations clearly in mind we confirm our faith in what God says about the benefits of scripture regarding <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/lexicons\/greek\/nas\/epanorthosis.html\">correction<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/lexicons\/greek\/nas\/elegxis.html\">reproof <\/a>and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/lexicons\/greek\/nas\/paideia.html\">training\/discipline<\/a> that leads to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/lexicons\/greek\/nas\/dikaiosune.html\">righteousness<\/a>. But if we read with other motives and do not apply the lessons to our own lives so that\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=psalm+73;+psalm+109:1-22;+lamentations+3:1-18;+acts+2:37-40;+john+16:5-8;+jeremiah+31:17-19\">our hearts are broken when we recognize that our religious activities are sin<\/a>, and then willingly seek and accept discipline while we study, we prove that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/hebrews\/passage\/?q=hebrews+12:4-11\">we are not children of God who desire the fruits of righteousness<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Combining what God said about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/2-timothy\/passage\/?q=2-timothy+3:16-17\">the usefulness of scripture<\/a> with other <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/matthew\/passage\/?q=matthew+6:25-34\">scripture that tells us to seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness,<\/a> we conclude that studying for discipline that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/romans\/passage\/?q=romans+12:1-2\">transforms us by the renewal of our minds<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=jeremiah+26:7-13;+jeremiah+7:1-6;+jeremiah+18:1-11;+jeremiah+26:1-6;+jeremiah+35:1-17;+joel+2:11-13;+jonah+3\">changes our behaviors in response to the exhortations of the prophets<\/a> is one way that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/galatians\/passage\/?q=galatians+3:15-24#\">law is a tutor that leads us to faith<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Admittedly the books of the prophets are as difficult for us to understand as they were for ancient Israel which was sent into exile because it refused to change its religious ways. But if we do not understand the prophets and change our ways we will suffer the same consequences Israel suffered. If we do not understand what God is trying to teach us when we read and do not turn from our evil ways (i.e. religion), we show that we have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=2-chronicles+36:11-20;+mark+6:45-52;+john+12:36-43;+psalm+95:7-11;+hebrews+3:1-15;+hebrews+4:1-12\">hard hearts just like Israel. <\/a><\/p>\n<p>In summary, we must learn to read, interpret and apply the entire Bible in terms of discipline designed to turn us from religion to hearing and obeying to God&#8217;s voice.<\/p>\n<p><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<p><strong>IT&#8217;S NOT YOUR GRANDFATHER&#8217;S\u00a0 KIND OF DISCIPLINE<\/strong><br \/>\nWe should not be surprised to know that God&#8217;s idea of discipline is not what we normally think of in our respective cultures. Most of us think of discipline as punishment for wrong behaviors with respect to some kind of standard (e.g. civil laws, criminal laws, household laws, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/mores\">mores<\/a>, traditions, etc.) established by people with authority to create laws and enforce them (e.g. government, parents, employers, religions, etc.). God&#8217;s discipline is different because it is enforced with respect to the standard of his spiritual laws written on the hearts of New\/First Covenant disciples. Men have no part in establishing God&#8217;s laws.<\/p>\n<p>A quick, simplistic comparison of cultural discipline and Godly discipline would say that one is managed by external sources to force people to conform to human laws and the other is enforced internally by God to encourage conformance to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/the-law\/6#spirituallaws\">spiritual laws<\/a>. Another comparison would say that cultural discipline uses punishment and shame to change fleshly behaviors while Godly discipline uses <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/romans\/passage\/?q=romans+2:1-8\">restorative love and kindness to effect an internal change of heart.<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 150px;\">STUDY TIP: See <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/place-where-god-will-place-his-name\/4\">The Heart is the Place<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In all cultures, the standards of behavior are codified as written laws or handed down from generation to generation as oral laws. They are typically rigid and unbending, but they tend to evolve over time along with the culture. These laws include religion which evolves along with the culture in which it is practiced. They are all conceived by and managed by people.<\/p>\n<p>God&#8217;s standards are very different. First of all, they do not change over time because God does not change. Secondly, God&#8217;s laws are only written on the hearts of people who love God &#8212; not written on paper. They are spiritual and cannot be seen with the natural eye. Thirdly, they differ from cultural laws in the important fact that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=exodus+19:1-5;+joshua+24:22-24;+1-samuel+15:22;+2-kings+18:11-12;+psalm+81;+jeremiah+7:21-30;+jeremiah+26:7-15;+jeremiah+32:26-44\">obedience and covenant faithfulness are closely tied to listening to God&#8217;s voice<\/a> &#8212; not to human teachers or authorities.<\/p>\n<p>It can be said, therefore, that knowing God&#8217;s law is the same thing as knowing his character and his will as revealed exclusively by his voice. Human teachers may think they know a thing or two about God because they have read some or a lot of the Bible. But what they think they know is a mere <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=colossians+2:13-22;+hebrews+8:1-10;+hebrews+10:1-18\">shadow<\/a> of the truth that can be revealed only by God directly when he speaks to our hearts. So it can be said that, to a great degree, the purpose of Godly discipline is to correct and expand on the deficiencies and errors of human teachers who have interpreted and applied what they think they know about God in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theopedia.com\/systematic-theology\">systematic theologies, <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/moral%20law\">moral laws\/codes<\/a> and ceremonies\/traditions<a href=\"http:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/ceremonial%20law\">, <\/a>all of which constitute <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\">religion<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Judaism and Christianity are based on human understandings derived from the literal words of the Bible which cannot accurately describe God who is spirit. True knowledge and wisdom about God&#8217;s character and ways can only be discerned with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+29:1-4;+isaiah+6:9-10;+ezekiel+12:1-16;+matthew+13:10-17;+acts+28:26-27;+romans+11:1-8;+john+12:40;+ephesians+1:16-18\">spiritual eyes and ears <\/a>that see way <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=1-corinthians+2;+isaiah+64:1-7\">beyond anything that human words can imagine or describe<\/a>. God describes these differences in starkly contrasting words such as light and dark, clean and unclean, good and evil, holy and profane, spirit and flesh, righteous and unrighteous, and many others.<\/p>\n<p>In the most general terms, the distinctions between what man teaches about God and what God teaches about himself are called Old\/First Covenant and New Covenant. Therefore, God&#8217;s purpose in discipline is to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=jeremiah+31:31-34;+1-thessalonians+4:9;+1-john+2:27;+john+14:11-17;+john+14:26;+1-corinthians+2:12;+hebrews+8:10-11\">reteach Old\/First Covenant religionists about himself so they have a New Covenant understanding. <\/a>Therefore, our purpose in reading the Bible should be to discover where our religious beliefs and practices conform to Old\/First Covenant religion so that we might repent of them and have our hearts changed so that we no longer desire to be religious.<\/p>\n<p>Since God is spirit and unfathomable by the natural mind, it is impossible to reduce God&#8217;s character and will to words on a page. Only a prideful fool would think he or she could do as good a job as God can do to explain his vast character to another person. But hundreds of generations of fools (i.e. <a href=\" http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/religion-is-the-kingdom-of-false-prophets\">false prophets<\/a>) have tried to do just that in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/isaiah\/28.html\">Old\/First Covenant religious laws which are covenants of death that <\/a>are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/galatians\/3.html\">not able to give life<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/isaiah\/28.html\">.\u00a0<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=jeremiah+31:31-34;+1-thessalonians+4:9;+1-john+2:27;+john+14:11-17;+john+14:26;+1-corinthians+2:12;+hebrews+8:10-11\">Since God is spirit, his spiritual character and laws can only be represented in a spiritual way (i.e. the New Covenant), which is a very personal and\u00a0 dynamic covenant that is understood only by listening to his voice. <\/a>This truth is confirmed in the truth that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=romans+10:17;galatians+3:1-5\">faith comes by hearing and hearing by the spoken word of God (i.e. Christ).<\/a><\/p>\n<p>It makes sense to prefer a New Covenant understanding of God that comes from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=john+6:63-68;+deuteronomy+8:1-3;+matthew+4:1-4;+luke+4:1-4\">words spoken by God&#8217;s own voice that is the source of spiritual life<\/a>. We should study the Bible, therefore, to learn where we have limited our understanding of God by accepting human teaching about God instead of listening to his voice.<\/p>\n<p>With these understandings we can begin to appreciate why it is so <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/exodus\/passage\/?q=exodus+20:1-7\">important to God that his people represent his name (i.e. character) accurately to the world.<\/a> We can also begin to appreciate why God considers failure to listen to his voice to be sin and why he has such strong feelings about <a href=\" http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/religion-is-the-kingdom-of-false-prophets\">false prophets<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>All of these subtleties about the spiritual nature of God are necessary background to understand why <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=1-kings+14:5-10;+1-kings+21:21;+1-kings+21:29;+2-kings+22:16-20;+2-chronicles+34:24-28;+nehemiah+13:18;+jeremiah+4:6;+jeremiah+11:20-23;+jeremiah+36:31;+jeremiah+42:17;+jeremiah+49:37\">God sometimes\u00a0promises that he will bring evil on Israel for failure to listen to his voice<\/a>. This is hard to accept or understand until we understand that, God considers anyone who prefers to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=joshua+5:6;+judges+2:17;+2-kings+17:14;+2-kings+17:40;+2-kings+18:11-12;+psalm+81;+jeremiah+7:21-30;+jeremiah+26:12-13;+jeremiah+32:26-35;+deuteronomy+4:23-30;+1-samuel+15:10-29;+2-chronicles+33:21-23;+jeremiah+16:14-20;+colossians+3:2-9\">receive instruction from a human instead of listening to his voice to be an idolater who practices evil<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>What he promises is that he will discipline his people when they disobey his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=exodus+23:20-27;deuteronomy+12:29-32;deuteronomy+18:9;leviticus+18:3;leviticus+20:22-26;2-kings+17:7-13;2-kings+21:1-2;ezra+9:10-15;jeremiah+10:2;jeremiah+44:2-8\">commands not to follow the religious practices of the people\/nations who live around them. <\/a>He will discipline (i.e. exile) his people when they follow these practices because they are based on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=colossians+2:8;+ephesians+5:6;+colossians+2:23;+1-timothy+6:20\">human teachings<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=colossians+2:8;+matthew+15:1-11;+mark+7:1-13\">traditions that nullify God&#8217;s spoken word.<\/a> It is no surprise that he would do this considering that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/exodus\/passage\/?q=exodus+20:1-7#\">he is jealous of his character (i.e. name) and does not want to be misunderstood, misrepresented and misquoted to the world.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Those of us who have ever been misunderstood and misquoted can begin to appreciate why God would want to take vengeance on those who misrepresent and misquote him. But God does not take revenge through external, physical means. He does it spiritually by piercing our hearts while reading the Bible study. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=psalm+51:16-19;+john+4:23-24;+psalm+34:18;+psalm+147:3;+isaiah+61:1;+isaiah+57:15;+1-samuel+15:22;+psalm+40:6;+romans+12:1-2;+hosea+6:6;+matthew+9:13;+matthew+12:7;+1-peter+2:4-5\">broken and contrite heart that we experience when he opens our eyes to understand that we have misrepresented and misquoted him through our religious activity and speech is our discipline. Our spiritual sacrifice is what we make when we repent of our religiosity and quit practicing religion.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>We conclude from all the above that we will know if we are reading the Bible with our spiritual eyes and ears wide open when our hearts are pierced with grief upon recognition that we have misquoted and misrepresented God through our religious behaviors and speech. Then we will have heard <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/hebrews\/passage\/?q=hebrews+4:1-13\">God&#8217;s spoken word which gives us spiritual understanding of the thoughts and intentions of our soulish heart<\/a>. In other words, we will see our hearts as God sees them. What we will see is that we have spent precious time, energy and money following <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/ceb\/passage\/?q=isaiah+55:1-9;+isaiah+58:1-13;+jeremiah+15:1-7;+jeremiah+16:14-18;+lamentations+3:1-11;+ezekiel+7:1-9;+ezekiel+18:25-29;+ezekiel+20:33-44;+zechariah+1:1-6;+zechariah+3:1-7;+malachi+2:1-9;+hebrews+3:1-10;+1-kings+3:14;+1-kings+11:33-38;+psalm+81:13;+psalm+119:59;+proverbs+8:32;+proverbs+23:26\">man&#8217;s religious ways instead of resting in God&#8217;s spiritual ways which have no material, fleshly cost<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<p><strong>LEARN TO RECOGNIZE &#8220;IF&#8230;, THEN &#8230;&#8221; CHOICES<\/strong><br \/>\nWe have discussed elsewhere how the law teaches us through difficult language (i.e. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/proverbs\/passage\/?q=proverbs+1:1-6\">parables, dark sayings, proverbs and riddles<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/proverbs\/passage\/?q=proverbs+1:1-6\">figures, words of the wise and riddles, <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/job\/passage\/?q=job+33:9-19\">dreams, enigmas and difficult problems, figurative language, dreams and visions, <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=colossians+2:13-22;+hebrews+8:1-10;+hebrews+10:1-18\">shadows, <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=romans+5:14;+hebrews+11:19\">types and patterns<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=genesis+9:12-17;+genesis+17:11;+exodus+13:16;+numbers+6:7;+deuteronomy+6:8;+deuteronomy+11:18;+joshua+4:1-6;+isaiah+8:18;+isaiah+19:20;+isaiah+20:3;+ezekiel+17:2;+ezekiel+24:3;+galatians+4:24;+hebrews+9:1-9;+hebrews+11:19;+1-peter+3:20-21;+revelation+11:1-8;+revelation+17:1-5\">symbols, signs and allegories<\/a>) and how the Bible brings correction that leads to righteousness. In this series of pages we will look at &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=exodus+19:5;+exodus+34:8-14;+deuteronomy+7:12;+deuteronomy+28:1-4;+deuteronomy+28:15-68;+1-kings+3:14;+1-kings+6:12;+1-kings+11:38;+2-chronicles+7:10-14;+2-chronicles+1:8-9;+isaiah+58:4-14;+ezekiel+33:13-16;+exodus+23:22;+leviticus+26:18-21;+numbers+21:2;+jeremiah+42:10;+zechariah+3:7;+malachi+2:2\">if\/then<\/a>&#8221; propositions that are also designed to lead us to righteousness.<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"ifthen\"><\/a>&#8220;If\/then&#8221;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=exodus+19:5;+exodus+34:8-14;+deuteronomy+7:12;+deuteronomy+28:1-4;+deuteronomy+28:15-68;+1-kings+3:14;+1-kings+6:12;+1-kings+11:38;+2-chronicles+7:10-14;+2-chronicles+1:8-9;+isaiah+58:4-14;+ezekiel+33:13-16;+exodus+23:22;+leviticus+26:18-21;+numbers+21:2;+jeremiah+42:10;+zechariah+3:7;+malachi+2:2\">\u00a0<\/a>propositions are statements where God first says \u201cif you will \u2026\u201d and follows with &#8220;then I will &#8230;&#8221;. These propositions are easiest to recognize when they are presented in order with the &#8220;if&#8221; condition presented first, and the &#8220;then&#8221; proposition presented second. Sometimes, however, the order is reversed, and may be obscured with other language in between, but with close inspection they will be found to be &#8220;if\/then&#8221; propositions. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/1-corinthians\/passage\/?q=1-corinthians+10:1-14\">We should always understand these kinds of statements as promises to everyone in all generations and not dismiss them as warnings meant only for ancient Israelites because we are all vulnerable to the same kinds of temptations to sin<\/a> (i.e.religion).<\/p>\n<p>To appreciate the weight of these &#8220;if\/then&#8221; statements, it is helpful to think of everything that God says as a law because he is<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=isaiah+55:10-11;+isaiah+45:23;+matthew+24:35;+isaiah+46:10;+ezekiel+12:25;+lamentations+2:17\"> faithful to accomplish whatever he says he will do<\/a>. Of course God&#8217;s statements are easier to accept as promises when the &#8220;then I will &#8230;&#8221; statement confirms that God will do something good, or positive for his people. We must also accept, however, that &#8220;if\/then &#8220;statements are still promises when the predicted (i.e. promised) action is some kind of discipline\/punishment that will\u00a0cause pain and suffering designed to bring religious people to repentance and righteousness. People who count themselves as &#8220;children of God&#8221; or &#8220;sons of God should not be surprised that God will make these kinds of statements because he has said very clearly that he &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/hebrews\/passage\/?q=hebrews+12:1-8\">disciplines those he loves<\/a>.&#8221; Because this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+29:9-15;+acts+2:37-39;+romans+9:1-4;+ephesians+2:11-19\">promise was made clearly to all generations, <\/a>including ours, we should expect to receive Godly discipline through Bible study.<\/p>\n<p><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<p><strong>GOD PROMISES BLESSINGS AND CURSES<\/strong><br \/>\nChristians should be especially careful that they do not dismiss God&#8217;s promises about exile and deliverance thinking that these stories apply only to Israel and the Jews or think that they already have all the deliverance from sin that they need. Stories of deliverance and the principles they represent also apply to Gentile believers because God is talking to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/romans\/11.html\">spiritual Israel which includes all Gentiles<\/a> &#8212; including Christians. Since Muslims claim to follow the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, it can be said that these promises also apply to Islam.<\/p>\n<p>The fundamental lesson here is that everyone can rely on God&#8217;s promises, whether for blessing or cursing. These promises are made most clearly and succinctly in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/deuteronomy\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+28:1-13\">Deuteronomy 28 where God specifies the blessings he will bring for obedience to his commandments <\/a>along with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/deuteronomy\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+28:14-68\">curses he will bring for disobedience.<\/a> We learn something important about God when we notice that there are\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/deuteronomy\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+28:1-14\">fourteen verses of blessings<\/a>, and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/deuteronomy\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+28:15-68\">fifty-three\u00a0verses of curses<\/a>.\u00a0This tells us, as if we needed to be told, that God is very serious about obedience.<\/p>\n<p>Whether God promises to bless us or curse us, we cannot overlook that they are &#8220;conditional&#8221; promises. Conditional means that when the terms following the &#8220;if&#8221; statement are fulfilled by us, the terms following the &#8220;then&#8221; statement will also be fulfilled by God. In the King James version of the Bible, these &#8220;if\/then&#8221; conditions appear three hundred and seven times. In the New International Version, they appear one hundred and ninety-five times. Needless to say, these conditional promises cannot be ignored. They are critical to recognize when reading because they inform us about consequences for failure to obey God&#8217;s voice.<\/p>\n<p>We must keep in mind that these &#8220;if\/then&#8221; propositions are framed in both positive and negative statements. That means that God also promises negative consequences imposed by Him if we do not do what He says we should do or if we do the things he says we should not do. If we believe that God is faithful to His word, we must also believe that His faithfulness extends to imposing negative consequences for disobedience as well as positive consequences for obedience<\/p>\n<p>In effect, what God is saying in these propositions is this:\u00a0 &#8220;If you do such and such, then I (God) will do such and such.&#8221; This promise should motivate us to acquire a very keen ear for hearing God&#8217;s voice. Thus, if while reading, we do not correctly understand what God is trying to tell us, we will find that the blessings we expect do not come and that curses we do not expect do come. Because religionists are much more practiced in hearing the voice of religious leaders than of the voice of God, they predictably receive more curses than blessing.<\/p>\n<p>We understand fully that the idea of negative consequences conflicts with Christian theology that says <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/ephesians\/passage\/?q=ephesians+2:1-10\">we are saved by grace and not by works. <\/a>We don&#8217;t argue with that theology, but we do argue with the common understanding of what grace really is and that it is a free, unconditional gift that requires nothing from us to qualify us to receive it.<\/p>\n<p>When we look at all the if\/then statements we find that there is a condition for receiving grace: Do not do the works of religion. The way the Bible puts this condition is that grace and faith come when we rest (i.e. cease) from our religious works.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 150px;\">STUDY TIP: See\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/the-law\/fourth-commandment\" aria-haspopup=\"true\">Fourth Commandment <\/a>and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/the-law\/fourth-commandment\/sabbath-fasting-rest\">Sabbath, Fasting and Rest<\/a> for more about resting from religious works.<\/p>\n<p>This is not good news for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/romans\/passage\/?q=romans+9:30-33\">Jews who pursue righteousness through rigid adherence to religious works &#8212; not by faith.<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=romans+5:20-21;+2-corinthians+6;+hebrews+4\">Only after we come to complete rest from our religious activity do we receive grace<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The substance of grace is admittedly difficult to grasp. Understanding of it is much easier, however, when we recognize that grace is one of several concepts (i.e. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/the-law\/two-covenantspart1\/faith-grace-mercy-peace-love-heart-glory-blessing-spirit-and-truth\">faith, mercy, peace, love, heart, glory, blessing, spirit and truth<\/a>) that God uses as code words to symbolically represent the New Covenant. With this understanding we can appreciate why it is impossible to receive grace until we are done practicing Old\/First Covenant religion for which the many promised curses apply.<\/p>\n<p>Grace and religion can\u00a0 not mix because grace depends of hearing God&#8217;s voice and religion is based on human teachings. We will want to be very sure, therefore, that our interpretations of the Bible are in alignment with God&#8217;s spiritual voice and not with fleshly, literal, human interpretations.<\/p>\n<p><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<p><strong>GOD DISCIPLINES RELIGION WITH RELIGION<\/strong><br \/>\nCuriously, we find that God&#8217;s disciplinary response to Israel&#8217;s sin of following the religious practices of other people\/nations is to lead them into captivity to those religious people\/nations. In effect, he separates himself from his people by exiling them to a place where the people do not know him and worship foreign gods. We see this portrayed specifically in the exiles of Israel to Egypt, Babylon and Assyria. And we see this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=judges+18:30;+2-kings+15:29;+2-kings+17:1-11;+2-kings+17:26;+1-chronicles+5:26;+1-chronicles+9:1;+ezra+6:21;+nehemiah+7:6;+esther+2:1-7;+isaiah+5:8-30;+jeremiah+13:12-27;+jeremiah+20:1-4;+jeremiah+22;+jeremiah+29;+jeremiah+30:1-10;+jeremiah+46:27;+jeremiah+49:1-3;+ezekiel+12:1-11;+ezekiel+39:7-29;+amos+5:1-5;+micah+1;+nahum+2:1-7;+nahum+3:1-10;+zechariah+14;+matthew+1:17\">principle applied repeatedly in the Old Testament when God sends one or more of the surrounding nations (i.e. religions) to punish and defeat Israel when it does not listen to his voice. <\/a>But we see the pattern most clearly in the list of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/deuteronomy\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+28:15-68\">curses he promises for people who do not obey his spiritual laws<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>One way to summarize this pattern is to say that God punishes religion with more religion. This may seem backward at first, but when we stop to look at it from God&#8217;s point of view, it makes perfect sense. And if\u00a0 we follow international news at all, we see that this principle is still played out daily in these modern times. God is using excessive, fundamental religionists of one religion to discipline religionists of another discipline.<\/p>\n<p>What we find in religion is that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/ezekiel\/passage\/?q=ezekiel+14:1-11\">people choose to have men tell them about God rather than listening to God&#8217;s voice themselves<\/a>. This is why God is compelled to discipline religious people. God calls the false prophets they listen to idols and he calls following such men and women idolatry.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 150px;\">STUDY TIP: See\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\/religion-is-sin\/religion-is-idolatry\">Religion is Idolatry.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In God&#8217;s language, these idolaters have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\/religion-is-the-enemy\">made treaties with enemies<\/a> of whom God has said <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=exodus+23:20-27;deuteronomy+12:29-32;deuteronomy+18:9;leviticus+18:3;leviticus+20:22-26;2-kings+17:7-13;2-kings+21:1-2;ezra+9:10-15;jeremiah+10:2;jeremiah+44:2-8\">Israel should not do as they do or follow their religious customs<\/a>. Obviously they are a rebellious people who do not listen to God. If they do not listen to God, how can he get their attention?<\/p>\n<p>He does that by oppressing his people with more and more religion until they get sick and tired of being oppressed and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=exodus+2:21-24;+exodus+3:1-10;+exodus+6:1-8;+numbers+20:8-16;+mark+1:21-28;+1-samuel+9:15-16;+1-samuel+12:1-10;+nehemiah+1;+nehemiah+9;+psalm+22:1-8;+psalm+106;+psalm+107:6;+jeremiah+51;+lamentations+3;+luke+8:28;+luke+4:33;+matthew+14:22-31;+hebrews+5:1-7\">cry out to God for deliverance from bondage to religion<\/a>. Just like Israel was lured into bondage to Egyptian religion during seven years of plenty when they ate their fill of the forbidden fruit of religion), they became intoxicated with religion and were helpless to deliver themselves from it. When Israel eventually saw the emptiness of religion and how religious leaders (i.e. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/egypt-and-babylon\/5#pharaohs\">Pharaoh<\/a>) deceived, used and exploited them, Israel&#8217;s hearts were finally opened to listen to God&#8217;s voice at least a little bit. After they cried out, God sent a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/true-prophets\/messiah\">Messiah<\/a> to lead them out of bondage into the Promised Land. That story is a parable for the deliverance process that all religious people must experience.<\/p>\n<p>Deliverance depends on crying out and repentance for not listening to God&#8217;s voice. They were sent into bondage because they did not listen to his voice, and they are delivered from bondage when they choose to listen to his voice instead of the voices of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/religion-is-the-kingdom-of-false-prophets\">false prophets<\/a>\/<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\/religion-is-sin\/religion-is-idolatry\/8\">idols<\/a>. When God hears their cries, he will commence the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/death-resurrection-life\/13\">redemption\/del<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/death-resurrection-life\/13\">iverance\/salvation<\/a> process and lead them slowly to the Promised Land where they are able to hear his voice and follow his ways because his laws are written on their hearts. He effectively leads them out of the Old\/First Covenant to the New Covenant. In Bible language, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=jeremiah+24:1-7;+jeremiah+31:27-34;+jeremiah+32:16-42;+ezekiel+37:15-27;+zechariah+8:1-8;+2-corinthians+6;+hebrews+8:7-13\">God delivers, redeems and saves his people from bondage to religion (i.e. Egypt, Babylon) so he can be their God again. <\/a>But he cannot and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/ezekiel\/passage\/?q=ezekiel+14:1-11\">will not be their God until they stop listening other gods<\/a> (i.e. religious leaders who function as false prophets).<\/p>\n<p>This pattern is repeated again and again in the Bible. God represents the process of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=isaiah+61;+luke+4:14-21;+matthew+11:1-5;+luke+7:22;+isaiah+11:1-4;+isaiah+29:13-24;+isaiah+32:1-7;+isaiah+57:15;+isaiah+42:1-7;+isaiah+49:1-9\">deliverance in many ways to represent the good news which says that those who are spiritually poor, spiritually blind, and held captive by religion can be healed and set free<\/a>. It was the gospel of salvation for Israel then and it is the gospel of salvation for Jews and Christians\u00a0 today. It is also the gospel of salvation for anyone who is enslaved by any other religion. Salvation from religion is not available, however, to anyone who is content with religion. Reading for discipline is not possible for those people.<\/p>\n<p><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<p><strong>STUDY TO LEARN OBEDIENCE<\/strong><br \/>\nIt is well understood that God places high priority on obedience. He puts the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=genesis+2:16-17;deuteronomy+28:15-68\">consequences of disobedience\u00a0in terms of death and curses.<\/a> When Goid talks about death he is not talking about physical death of the physical\u00a0 body. Rather he uses death to symbolically represent spiritual death that we experience when we are separated from God.<\/p>\n<p>Separation from God is the essence of the concept of being sent into exile to religion as symbolically represented in the exiles to Egypt, Babylon and Assyria discussed earlier. While exile does not necessarily mean immediate, physical death, it may also be associated with be decline and decay in several different life aspects: physical health, emotional health, financial health, relationship health, spiritual health, etc. Whether it\u00a0 is fast or slow, whether it is immediate or imminent, it is still death and it the consequence of being separated from God.<\/p>\n<p>Since <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=jeremiah+23:23-24;+proverbs+15:3;+2-chronicles+16:9;+psalm+34:18;+isaiah+43:2;+1-corinthians+14:24-25;+genesis+28:15;+john+14:18\">God is omnipresent<\/a>, however, we are never really totally separated from God. Even when we are exiled because of disobedience he is available and ready to hear our cries for help so that we can be delivered from religion. It can be said, therefore, that even when we are exiled, we are still in a covenant relationship with God. It is not the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=hebrews+7:18-22;+hebrews+8;+2-corinthians+5:17;+isaiah+28:15-18\">New Covenant which is the better covenant, but it is the Old\/First Covenant which is a covenant of death that is obsolete and passing away. This is not good news for religious people. <\/a>But there is good news nonetheless. And that is that even when we are disobedient in our Old\/First Covenant religion, God is faithful and will rescue us when we repent and cry out for deliverance.<\/p>\n<p>He wants to rescue us from religion and will rescue us because What we do, or do not do, matters to God. He loves obedience because obedient people listen to his voice. And he hates disobedience because disobedient people <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/ezekiel\/passage\/?q=ezekiel+14:1-11\">listen to false prophets<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=joshua+24:16;+deuteronomy+7:1-5;+jeremiah+25:1-9;+joshua+23:16;+deuteronomy+6:14;+deuteronomy+8:19;+2-kings+17:34-35;+jeremiah+35:15\">serve other gods.<\/a> This is a point on which God is very particular, but it is also a point which Old\/First Covenant religionists do not take seriously.<\/p>\n<p>Curiously, religionists are perfectly willing to be legalistic about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=luke+11:46;+matthew+15:1-9;+matthew+23:1-4\">religious rules made by men<\/a>, but they are not willing to obey <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=isaiah+29:1-13;+matthew+15:1-8;+mark+7:1-6\">laws, commandments and precepts made by God. <\/a>And they practice this double-mindedness while passionately claiming that they love God.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=isaiah+29:1-13;+matthew+15:1-8;+mark+7:1-6\"> God calls such people hypocrites who give honor to him with their mouth while their hearts are far from him.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Through parables and other symbolic language, the Bible informs us about ungodly legalism which is obedience to ungodly rulers (e.g. pastors, rabbis, teachers, etc.) who create and administer religious rules. We see in these stories that people who follow such leaders and the people who follow them come to a bad end at the hands of their enemies. This stands in stark contrast with Godly legalism which exists when<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=jeremiah+31:31-34;+1-thessalonians+4:9;+1-john+2:27;+john+14:11-17;+john+14:26;+1-corinthians+2:12;+hebrews+8:10-11\"> God&#8217;s spiritual law is written on the human heart<\/a>. People who listen to God <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/proverbs\/16-7.html#\">live in peace with their enemies. <\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=1+samuel+16:7;1+chronicles+28:9;psalm+44:20-21;psalm+139:23;revelation+2:18-23;1+kings+8:37-39;2+chronicles+6:24-31;psalm+7:9;jeremiah+17:10\">God looks at the condition of man&#8217;s heart t<\/a>o see if his law is written there. He does not look at exterior, religious activities like people do. Religious <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/matthew\/passage\/?q=matthew+6:1-5;matthew+6:16;matthew+23:1-10\">people do religious things in order to be seen by others so they can receive praise for what they do. <\/a>Because<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/matthew\/passage\/?q=matthew+6:1-5;matthew+6:16;matthew+23:1-10\"> r<\/a>eligious people don&#8217;t know the difference between Old\/First Covenant and New Covenant, they <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=leviticus+19:12;+leviticus+22:32;+leviticus+18:21;+leviticus+10:1-10;+leviticus+20:3;+ezekiel+22:26;+ezekiel+44:23\">give God a bad name<\/a> through their legalistic religious activity. God is justified, therefore in calling those activities an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/lexicons\/hebrew\/nas\/shiqquwts.html\">abomination<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Religious abominations are always done under the leadership of men &#8212; not God<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/matthew\/passage\/?q=matthew+6:1-5;matthew+6:16;matthew+23:1-10\">.<\/a> God says that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/2-timothy\/passage\/?q=2-timothy+3:1-5\">religious people love the pleasure of their religion more than they love God and that their activities have only an appearance of godliness and lack spiritual power<\/a>.\u00a0 He also says that they <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=isaiah+29:1-14;+psalm+50:7-17;+psalm+119:65-71;+isaiah+58:1-2;+jeremiah+12:1-2;+ezekiel+33:31;+matthew+15:8-9;+mark+7:6-7;+colossians+2:22\">worship with their mouths while their hearts are far from him. <\/a>They are grossly deceived about their righteousness and disobedient. When studying, therefore, we must learn to identify with religious characters in their disobedience. If we do not recognize ourselves in scripture that punishes religious behavior, we read for the wrong reasons and are blind to the spiritual truth that God wants to reveal to us about our religious life.<\/p>\n<p>Doing religious things to be noticed is a key feature of Pharisee-ism. Thus anyone who participates in religious activities with the motive of being noticed and commended for practicing their religion may be rightly called a Pharisee. Pharisees find justification for their religious behaviors in strict observance of the literal law of Moses. Since no one wants to be called a Pharisee, we should avoid literal interpretations and legalistic enforcement of rules based on those interpretations. We should avoid, therefore, reading and memorizing scripture so that we can quote it at an opportune time to show off our Bible knowledge and to somehow use that knowledge to influence others. These are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=proverbs+16:2;1+corinthians+4:5;philippians+1:12-17;james+2:1-4\">wrong motives which God is able to discern <\/a>because <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=psalm+44:8-21;+acts+15:1-8;+psalm+139:1-2;+1-kings+8:39;+proverbs+15:11;+jeremiah+12:3;+jeremiah+17:10\">he knows what is in our hearts.<\/a> Thus it can be said that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=galatians+1:10;+1-thessalonians+2:1-4;+colossians+3:22;+ephesians+6:6;+matthew+23:1-5;+matthew+6:1;+matthew+6:5;+matthew+6:16;+luke+6:26\">earning the praise of men through religious activity &#8212; <\/a>including Bible study and quoting scripture &#8212; is not the right motive to learn. And it can also be said that we miss the message of scripture regarding Phariseeism if we do not recognize our own tendencies to think and behave like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/religion-is-the-kingdom-of-false-prophets\/pharisees-and-scribes\">Pharisees<\/a> for the purpose of earning the praise of men.<\/p>\n<p><!--nextpage--><br \/>\n<strong>SUBMIT TO GOD&#8217;S REFINING FIRE<\/strong><br \/>\nMost people who have read the Bible know the phrase that says <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=malachi+3:1-7;+zechariah+13;+matthew+3:1-12;+1-corinthians+3:9-22\">God is a refining fire <\/a>and they might also be familiar with scripture that says<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/search\/?q=test+heart+&amp;c=&amp;t=niv&amp;ps=10&amp;s=Bibles\"> God tests the hearts<\/a> of his people. They like to quote these scriptures whenever they are going through some kind of trouble in their personal lives.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 160px;\">STUDY TIPS: See <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/death-resurrection-life\/2\">this link<\/a> for more understanding of God&#8217;s fire.<\/p>\n<p>Many people claim to love God, but the fact that they also love and practice religion that is abusive proves that they do not love him with &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/lexicons\/hebrew\/nas\/kol.html\">all<\/a> their <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+6:5-9;+deuteronomy+30:6;+deuteronomy+30:16;+deuteronomy+30:20;+deuteronomy+10:12;+deuteronomy+11:1;+deuteronomy+11:13;+deuteronomy+13:3;+deuteronomy+19:9\">heart soul and strength<\/a>.&#8221; When they do not <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=exodus+15:26;exodus+23:21;exodus+19:5;jeremiah+7:23\">listen to and obey his voice only, <\/a>but listen to the voice of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=ezekiel+14:1-11;+1-kings+22:1-23;+2-timothy+4:1-4;+proverbs+7\">false prophets<\/a> and follow the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/matthew\/passage\/?q=matthew+15:1-6\">religious traditions<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=matthew+15:1-9;+mark+7:1-7;+colossians+2:16-22\">doctrines created by men<\/a>, they prove that they do not love him with &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/lexicons\/hebrew\/nas\/kol.html\">all<\/a> their heart soul and strength.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When God&#8217;s children do not love him with &#8220;all their heart soul and strength,&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+8:1-5;+psalm+94:1-10;+proverbs+3:1-12;+hebrews+12:1-12\">God imposes <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+8:1-5;+psalm+94:1-10;+proverbs+3:1-12;+hebrews+12:1-12\">discipline <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+8:1-5;+psalm+94:1-10;+proverbs+3:1-12;+hebrews+12:1-12\">on them as an expression of his love<\/a> and his commitment to his covenant with them. Godly discipline in the Bible is typically represented in the form of oppression by religion. Oddly, this means that God punishes his people for practicing religion by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=judges+2:10-15;+nehemiah+9:26-27;+psalm+106:32-45\">sending them into captivity by religious oppressors.<\/a> This may not make much sense to us, but we must still accept that this is God&#8217;s way of getting his people to the point where they are so <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=exodus+3:1-7;+2-samuel+22:1-7;+psalm+18:1-6;+psalm+40:1-8;+psalm+106:32-45;+exodus+2:25;+nehemiah+9:9;+isaiah+63:9;+acts+7:30-36\">sick of being oppressed by religion that they cry out to him for deliverance<\/a>. This is what happened when they were in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=exodus+3:1-7;+exodus+2:25;+nehemiah+9:9;+isaiah+63:9;+acts+7:30-36\">Egypt<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/daniel\/passage\/?q=daniel+9:1-23\">Babylon<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/nehemiah\/1.html\">Persia<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The experience of Bible heroes dealing with religious nations (e.g. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/egypt-and-babylon\">Egypt, Babylon, Canaan<\/a>, Philistines, Persia, etc.) confirms what scripture says about the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=galatians+3:15-24;+romans+11\">law (i.e. religion) being a tutor that leads us to faith (i.e. New Covenant). <\/a>To see how this happens we must read between the lines of several scriptures and connect events that reveal the following process.<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=jeremiah+31:1-34;+jeremiah+7;+ezekiel+16;+ezekiel+17\">Israel breaks covenant (i.e. sins) with God<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+7:4;+deuteronomy+8:19;+deuteronomy+11:27-28;+deuteronomy+13#\">follows the gods of other nations (i.e. religions.)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=2-chronicles+24:17-21;+jeremiah+7:20-28;+romans+11:1-3;+1-thessalonians+2:14-16;+jeremiah+2:30\">God sends prophets to warn Israel to turn back to God, but Israel rejects the prophets&#8217; message and continue with their religious practices.<\/a><\/li>\n<li>God sends Israel into captivity (i.e. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/study\/study-for-discipline\/6\">exile<\/a>) in religious nations.<\/li>\n<li>Israel cries out because of afflictions they receive from their religious captors while they are in exile.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=exodus+2:23-25;+exodus+22:23;+exodus+3:7-8;+acts+7:34;+genesis+16:11;+exodus+2:23;+1-samuel+9:16;+numbers+20:15-16;+psalm+106:44\">God hears Israel&#8217;s cries<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=john+3:34;+jeremiah+26:1-5;+ezekiel+2:1-7;+2-chronicles+36:15;+acts+3:26;+revelation+1:1;+deuteronomy+18:18;+isaiah+51:15-16;+john+17:1-8;+isaiah+59:21;+deuteronomy+32:1;+job+22:22;+psalm+19:14;+proverbs+12:6;+jeremiah+1:9;+jeremiah+5:14;+hosea+6:5;+daniel+9:9-11\">sends deliverers (i.e. prophets) who speak his words<\/a> to lead them out of captivity.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><a id=\"expectpersecutiontribulation\"><\/a>Jesus&#8217; life was also filled with violent conflict at the hands of the religious people of his day (i.e.<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hellenistic_Judaism\"> Hellenistic Judaism<\/a>). Although the Jews expected a Messiah who would deliver them from Roman oppression, Jesus never took initiatives to contend with Roman authorities. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=matthew+3:1-12;+matthew+12:22-39;+matthew+15:1-6;+matthew+16:1-11;+matthew+23;+mark+7:1-9;+luke+14:1-8\">Jewish Pharisees were always his target<\/a> &#8212; not the Roman government. It is no wonder, then, that the Chief priests and Pharisees found <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=matthew+26:1-4;+mark+14:1;+luke+22:1-2;+john+11:51-53;+matthew+12:1-14;+luke+6:6-10;+luke+13:10-17;+luke+14:1-4;+john+5:5-18;+john+7:19-44;+john+9:19-27;+john+8:58-59;+john+10:22-39;+john+11:41-53;+john+7:32;+john+7:1;+psalm+31:13\">Jesus to be a threat to their positions of high spiritual authority and plotted to crucify him. <\/a>But that was not the end of the matter for Jesus. While on the cross, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=psalm+22:1;+matthew+27:46;+mark+15:34\">he cried out to God<\/a> who ultimately brought him back to life. This is a picture of what happens to us when we cry out to God for deliverance from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/time-hours-days-weeks-and-ages\/end-times-rapture-and-tribulation\/4\">tribulation<\/a> at the hands of our religious family and friends.<\/p>\n<p>What we learn from the lives of Old Testament prophets, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=matthew+3:1-12;+mark+6:22-28\">John the Baptist<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=john+2:13-25;+matthew+21:1-16;+matthew+12:1-39;+matthew+15:1-6;+matthew+16:1-11;+matthew+23;+mark+7:1-9;+luke+7:24-34;+luke+13:14-17;+luke+13:1-8;+john+11:41-51;+luke+5:21;+luke+11:37-53\">Jesus<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=acts+12:1-6;+acts+4:1-3\">Peter<\/a>, the Apostle <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=acts+13:45;+acts+13:50;+acts+14:19;+acts+17:5;+acts+17:13;+acts+21:27;+acts+23:12-22;+acts+25:7;+2-corinthians+6:1-10;+acts+16:16-24\">Paul,<\/a> and other<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=acts+5:12-18;+romans+16:7;+acts+16:16-24\"> apostles<\/a> is that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\/religion-is-the-enemy\/4\">conflict is inevitable and ongoing<\/a> for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/the-law\/two-covenantspart1\/2#newcovenant\">New Covenant<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/the-law\/two-covenantspart1\/#disciple\">disciples<\/a>. They all <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=ephesians+6:10-12;+colossians+2\">wrestled with religious leaders<\/a> who found them to be threats to their religious power and authority. And this is not a misplaced threat. Religious leaders, past and present, have every reason to be afraid of New Covenant disciples because of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+12;+deuteronomy+20;+numbers+21:1-3;+numbers+31:1-18;+numbers+32;+numbers+33:50-56;+deuteronomy+9;+joshua+7:1-15;+joshua+9;+joshua+11;+joshua+23;+judges+2:11-23;+1-samuel+15:10-26;+deuteronomy+7:1-6;+deuteronomy+31:1-8;+zechariah+12:9;+jeremiah+1:10;+jeremiah+51:15-23\">God&#8217;s clear command to utterly destroy all the <span id=\"verse-3\">altars and idols of the <\/span>religious nations\/people who lived in the Promised Land.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>So Jesus, Paul and the other apostles were only doing what all of God&#8217;s people are commanded to do:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\/religion-is-not-faith\/religion-is-injustice-and-slavery\/2#dojustice\">Do Justice. <\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=isaiah+61:1-4;+luke+4:18-19;+isaiah+58:1-12\">Set captives to religion free.<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Therefore, just as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=john+2:13-25;+matthew+21:1-16;+matthew+12:1-39;+matthew+15:1-6;+matthew+16:1-11;+matthew+23;+mark+7:1-9;+luke+7:24-34;+luke+13:14-17;+luke+13:1-8;+john+11:41-51;+luke+5:21;+luke+11:37-53\">Jesus, <\/a>the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=acts+13:45;+acts+13:50;+acts+14:19;+acts+17:5;+acts+17:13;+acts+21:27;+acts+23:12-22;+acts+25:7;+2-corinthians+6:1-10;+acts+16:16-24\">Apostle Paul<\/a> and other apostles were serious threats to the power and authority of Jewish temple leaders, and just as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=exodus+1:5-14;+psalm+105:23-25\">Israel was a threat to Pharaoh and his kingdom,<\/a> all people who like to think of themselves as children of God should also be serious threats to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\/14#religiousinstitutions\">religious institutions<\/a>. None of Jesus&#8217; followers who take this responsibility seriously will physically die on a cross, but <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=1-peter+3:13-18;+matthew+5:10-12;+acts+7:52;+hebrews+11:32-40;+hebrews+12:1-4;+hebrews+13:12-13;+1-peter+4:14;+john+15:18-21;+philippians+2:12-13;+matthew+21:33-46;+2-corinthians+1:5-7;+philippians+1:12-14;+ephesians+3:13;+2-corinthians+4:17;+romans+5:3-5;+2-corinthians+12:6-10;+2-corinthians+6:4;+2-thessalonians+1:4;+2-timothy+3:10-11;+2-corinthians+4:10-18;+luke+6:22\">they will still suffer affliction and persecution<\/a>\u00a0 from religious people, both leaders and followers, who know, or at least can see, that God&#8217;s people are committed to tearing down their religious institutions.<\/p>\n<p>But, just as Jesus was raised from the dead, the people of Godly faith persevered and overcame religion&#8217;s control over them as they transitioned from Old\/First Covenant religion to being New Covenant disciples. This is the death, resurrection and new life story that the Bible tells over and over again.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 150px;\">STUDY TIP: See\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/death-resurrection-life\" aria-haspopup=\"true\">Death, Resurrection, New Life, Salvation, Heaven.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>It is critical to recognize that the resurrection and new life does not happen unless death first occurs. And death does not occur unless there is first a sense of oppression that causes us to cry out to God for deliverance (i.e. salvation). And God does not deliver us unless and until we <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=matthew+13:1-16;+john+12:36-40;+acts+28:27;+isaiah+6:1-10;+zechariah+7\">repent (i.e. turn) for having participated in religious practices and traditions taught by men.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Bringing this all back to the topic of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/2-timothy\/passage\/?q=2-timothy+3:16-17\">why\/how we should read the Bible<\/a>, we conclude that we should learn from the lives of Bible characters that we are no better than they were in holding onto righteousness. We, like they, are all susceptible to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/genesis\/passage\/?q=genesis+3:1-10\">the temptations that lure us into religion<\/a> (i.e. the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil). And we, like they, are all victims of oppression and persecution by religious leaders (i.e.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\/religion-is-the-enemy\"> our enemies<\/a>) and institutions that we willfully and eagerly joined, followed and supported because we enjoyed religion and took pride in being part of a religious community that has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/genesis\/passage\/?q=genesis+11:1-9\">made a name for itself by building a religious structure that tries to reach God through physical effort.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>If we do not read the Bible and find these parallels to our lives so that we repent for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/rsv\/passage\/?q=exodus+23:20-27;deuteronomy+12:29-32;deuteronomy+18:9;leviticus+18:3;leviticus+20:22-26;2-kings+17:7-13;2-kings+21:1-2;ezra+9:10-15;jeremiah+10:2;jeremiah+44:2-8\">joining ourselves to religions<\/a> that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/passage\/?q=deuteronomy+12;+deuteronomy+20;+numbers+21:1-3;+numbers+31:1-18;+numbers+32;+numbers+33:50-56;+deuteronomy+9;+joshua+7:1-15;+joshua+9;+joshua+11;+joshua+23;+judges+2:11-23;+1-samuel+15:10-26;+deuteronomy+7:1-6;+deuteronomy+31:1-8;+zechariah+12:9;+jeremiah+1:10;+jeremiah+51:15-23\">God told us to destroy<\/a>, and if we don&#8217;t cry out for deliverance from those religions, we have missed the teaching, reproof, correction, and training in righteousness that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/lexicons\/greek\/nas\/artios.html\">perfects<\/a> and equips us for every good work. Or, it could be said that we have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/hebrews\/12.html\">refused God&#8217;s loving discipline that is designed set us free from a kingdom that can be shaken (i.e. Old\/First Covenant religion) so that we can receive a kingdom that cannot be shaken (i.e. New Covenant\/Kingdom of God).<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The active agent in process\u00a0of teaching, reproof, correction, and training in righteousness that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/lexicons\/greek\/nas\/artios.html\">perfects<\/a> and equips us is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/the-law\/two-covenantspart1\/faith-grace-mercy-peace-love-heart-glory-blessing-spirit-and-truth\/oil-water-face-hands\">God&#8217;s word<\/a> spoken through his messengers (i.e.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/true-prophets\">true prophets<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/true-prophets\">,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/angels\">angels,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/true-prophets\/messiah\">messiahs<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/true-prophets\/the-high-priest\">high priests<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/the-law\/two-covenants-part-2\/7#godspeaksfromcloud\">witnesses<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/true-prophets\/model-warriors\">warriors<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/lexicons\/greek\/nas\/apostolos.html\">apostles<\/a>.) Only <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/the-law\/two-covenantspart1\/faith-grace-mercy-peace-love-heart-glory-blessing-spirit-and-truth\/oil-water-face-hands\/3\">God&#8217;s spoken word has power to change hearts<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/place-where-god-will-place-his-name\/4#evilimpureheart\">evil and impure<\/a> to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/place-where-god-will-place-his-name\/4#goodpureheart\">clean and pure. <\/a>He does that by sending his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/true-prophets\/messiah\">anointed messengers<\/a>\/<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/true-prophets\">prophets<\/a> to enlighten religious people about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/how-to-hear-gods-spoken-voice#spiritconvicts\">sin and the difference between faith and religion.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblestudytools.com\/nas\/passage\/?q=malachi+3:1-7;+zechariah+13;+matthew+3:1-12;+1-corinthians+3:9-22\">Refining fire<\/a> is one of the terms that God uses to describe this process. What we see when religious people react with anger to true prophets who share the true gospel is the refining effect of God&#8217;s spoken word. It is God&#8217;s spoken word that arouses evil, impure hearts to anger when religious people hear a truth from God&#8217;s mouth that disagrees with what they have been taught in their religious community. Their minds and hearts are aroused with anger and fear that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\/religion-is-not-faith\/pride\/2\">religion in which the have so much pride<\/a> is under a serious threat. This fear causes them to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/death-resurrection-life\/two-deaths\/2#warofwords\">lash out with words<\/a> that they hope will defend their religious kingdoms against spiritual forces behind the threat. What they don&#8217;t realize is that God is the spiritual force that threatens their religious kingdom. What they don&#8217;t realize is that God has sent true prophets to speak his words to<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\/god-is-calling-people-out-of-religion\"> call his people out of religion<\/a> and to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\/religion-is-sin\/religion-is-idolatry\/4\">tear down religion.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>We see this response to truth in the story of Jesus. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/the-law\/sixth-commandment-murder\/#pltsagainstjesus\">Religious leaders plotted to kill Jesus<\/a> because he was on a mission to expose them and remove them from their <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/symbols-signs-types-copies-shadows-and-patterns\/people\/religion-is-the-kingdom-of-false-prophets\/kings-queens-and-princes\">positions of authority<\/a> as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/religion\/religion-is-not-faith\/religion-is-injustice-and-slavery\">enslavers and oppressors<\/a> of God&#8217;s people. We can expect this kind of response from Old\/First Covenant religious people every time <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/the-law\/two-covenantspart1\/2#newcovenant\">New Covenant<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/mystery\/gods-written-word-and-gods-spoken-voice\/the-law\/two-covenantspart1\/#disciple\">disciples <\/a>speak truth to them. This violent response is all part of the refining process.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>GODLY DISCIPLINE One reason people read the Bible is to be reminded of and comforted by God&#8217;s promises. While this is well and good, there is a problem in the fact that religion teaches that any promise God has made <span class=\"excerpt-dots\">&hellip;<\/span> <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/study\/study-for-discipline\"><span class=\"more-msg\">Continue reading &rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":754,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-1352","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1352","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1352"}],"version-history":[{"count":34,"href":"https:\/\/thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1352\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12431,"href":"https:\/\/thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1352\/revisions\/12431"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/754"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thewaywesee.com\/religiondetoxnetwork\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1352"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}